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    I have considered writing a Smoked Out since I read some of the first ones. But then I thought, why jump through hoops for something like this? Why does it really matter? What will it accomplish? Why does anyone care about what I do? Hopefully the answers to these questions will unfold in my narrative.

    I started building frames in 2008; however, my interest in bicycles began over 20 years ago working as bike mechanic in my local bike shop during high school. I have always wanted to build bikes, but like so many of us, where do you begin? How do you find time, money, skills?

    In 2008, I was living in Seattle, working as a bike mechanic at Recycled Cycles. I was finally at a point in my life where I thought I could afford the UBI frame building course, so I enrolled in the brazing course. I came out of the course with a fillet brazed road frame, which I commuted on in Seattle just about every day and is still my current road bike. I named it the “Lithium Flyer,” because it brought happiness to me while riding - and because of rumors of lithium traces in the Ashland water supply.

    I really learned a lot at the UBI course and really debated over the TIG course vs. the brazing course. I chose brazing because of the low start up equipment costs, and I think because of an old love of lugged frames. If I had it over to do again, I would have gone the TIG route. Before I took the course I did a track dropout conversion on an old Trek frame. It took forever, but gave me a lot of good experience to reflect on in the class.

    I lived in Seattle for 3 years, and then fled the city as soon as my wife finished her graduate program. While in Seattle, I had the pleasure and opportunity to work for Steve Hampsten (in all my free time). I mainly built up complete bikes for Steve, but also built a few brazed racks. I learned a lot working for Steve, and in a lot of ways, wished I was still working for him.

    After completing the UBI course, I started building right away. I built quite a few bikes for friends and some for actual customers. I displayed at the Oregon Manifest one fall, and got meet a lot of talented builders. I was sandwiched between Winter Bicycles and Ahrens and felt like I was a little under-gunned. It was a great experience overall, but very financially taxing.

    I truly do enjoy building frames and when I hear folks say, “Follow your Dreams.” Well, this is my dream. I wished it was as easy as that. I have built around two dozen bikes, repaired many steel frames, and built a few racks along the way. I haven’t made a dime and have spent a lot of money on materials and tooling. I enjoy building different types of bikes, and always welcome a challenge. (Probably part of my profitability issue)

    I currently live in Whitefish, MT and still build when given the opportunity. I have only built one frame since the birth of my son a year ago. I sometimes wonder how many full time builders have children and how they stay afloat if they do. When you have a child, your priorities change quite a bit. I love my son, and consider him my best creation to date.

    I have had many jobs over the years and often get harassed about the number and diversity. Past jobs include, but not limited to- building rifle barrels, fixing espresso machines, manufacturing composting toilets, carpentry, landscaping, or trail work. I currently work for Fish, Wildlife, and Parks in the maintenance shop. I get to do quite a lot of fabrication in this position and spend a lot of time with the MIG welder. Those who MIG weld know that it is less than glamorous. It’s just a way to join metal and build stuff.

    I get a number of inquiries from people over the internet, but still have not sold a bike truly over the internet. After all, why would anyone buy a bike from Boedie Cycles in Whitefish, MT.? I feel like I always get the totally bizarre requests, like chariots or a full suspension bike for a 5 year old. I have had one lugged MTB frame show signs of cracking at the TT/HT lug. Luckily I caught it tuning up the bike and replaced the head tube at no cost for my friend.

    I have built bikes to display in bike shops in NC and NYC. No new business resulted from this. I decided to start doing bike repairs out of my shop last summer to help generate the funds to purchase a TIG welder. It almost worked, but ended up using the money to get me through the slow season at work. I have really struggled with paint finishes. The finish of the bike is so important. I have tried many finishers, but never am very happy with the results. I have a frame at Spectrum currently that I am pretty hopeful for. They really are good and produce beautiful frames. The only draw back is the long wait. When I get it back, it will be two months from when I sent it in. I was using a local “hot rod” finisher who did beautiful work. The only problem was the durability of the paint. I feel like I have not found the magical relationship with a finisher yet.

    One saying that has always rung true for me is, ”You get out of it what you put into it.” Whenever I put the energy into the business, I usually get something out of it. It’s just finding the time to do it. Building bikes is not the hard part for me- it’s the mental game of self worth that goes along with it and not being too critical on myself.

    I feel like I represent the majority of frame builders in the country. I am passionate about building bikes, but just too afraid (or maybe the word is realistic) to quit my full time job, which provides for my family. I considered selling all my equipment this last winter, but that thought makes me truly sad. I recognize that I am in this for the long haul, and just need to keep building a name.

    Thank you for reading,

    Chris Boedeker
    Boedie Cycles

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    Hey there Chris,

    a lot of truths in your introductory statement that I can identify with. Kudo's to you for telling your particular version of the f'building journey, and congratulations on the birth of your son. Didn't know that you had become a father.

    Good to hear from you.

    Alistair.

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    Thank you Alistair!

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    I really enjoyed your story. I read "gritty passion" in your fabricating journey and "profound passion" in your family journey. Perhaps an investment of time and energy messaging to your audience with these two elements will inspire your audience to engage you in creation. These two passions are your "why".

    People buy your "why", not your "how" or your "what".

    Your story stirred inspiration in me.
    Thank you for sharing, Chris.
    "Opinion is really the lowest form of human knowledge. It requires no accountability, no understanding. The highest form of knowledge is "empathy", for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another’s world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding." - Bill Bullard.

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    Keep plugging away Chris. Everything that is sustainable takes time to create. There are very very few instant successes.

    Jonathan

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    Thank you guys! I always remind myself that hard work pays off. I hope to get into the shop more, as we figure out childcare and scheduling. This forum is a good way for me to draw motivation to keep building.

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boedie View Post
    I truly do enjoy building frames and when I hear folks say, “Follow your Dreams.” Well, this is my dream. I wished it was as easy as that. I have built around two dozen bikes, repaired many steel frames, and built a few racks along the way. I haven’t made a dime and have spent a lot of money on materials and tooling. I enjoy building different types of bikes, and always welcome a challenge. (Probably part of my profitability issue)

    Thank you for reading,

    Chris Boedeker
    Boedie Cycles
    I'm not going to bag on you, so take this constructively, please?

    Since 2008 you have built 28 frames - if you have (or, were to have) insurance at base rate, man............you would be paying ALLOT for the "privilage" to build people bikes - how has this worked for you?

    You say you want a challenge, but aren't sure what your offerings are, and even ask "Why would anyone buy from me, I live in X and *****-***"

    Well, Why would they?
    You need to define who you are, what you sell, and why someone would pick you out of the builder cloud, because if you can't........how is anyone else to?

    Let me know what you think, and feel free to turn the Q back on me - we need to define YOU so you can sell some bikes.

    PS - what happened to Sam Hill? Ramblumtick, yeah? or something?
    Nice Guy.
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    Steve Garro, Coconino Cycles.
    Frames & Bicycles built to measure and Custom wheels
    Hecho en Flagstaff, Arizona desde 2003
    www.coconinocycles.com
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    Steve, thanks for the insight. Everything you propose is relative and something I really need to figure out. At this point, I build custom bike frames to people who really appreciate a detailed, locally made bicycle. Most people are searching for that locally made product- something/someone they can connect with. The community that I live in has been very gracious in supporting me, and in turn I have given back with a bike that was raffled to raise money for our local trail system. I've always heard that in order to be profitable, you have to expand past your local community.

    What you ask is the question that I have been trying to figure out. It's not that I haven't given it any thought, I just don't know the answer.

    As for Rumbeltik, I heard he went of business years ago. Not too sure on the specifics.
    Regards,
    Chris

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