Dropout ID help

[Andrew R Stewart]

I went through my box of rear dropouts today and among the many I found these two sets which I sort of don't/do remember buying quite a few years ago. I don't remember who made them or where from I might have gotten them. Does anyone here recognize them? AndyID Dropouts 3.jpgID Dropouts 2.jpgID Dropouts 1.jpg

[steve garro]

I went through my box of rear dropouts today and among the many I found these two sets which I sort of don't/do remember buying quite a few years ago. I don't remember who made them or where from I might have gotten them. Does anyone here recognize them? AndyID Dropouts 3.jpgID Dropouts 2.jpgID Dropouts 1.jpg

I dunno, but I really like the look of them!

- Garro.

[corey thompson]

The eyeletted ones remind me of some Kirk Pacenti did. I don't remember a non-eyeletted version...

[bulgie]

I'm about 80% sure they're Mitch Pryor's design. I doubt he CNC'd them himself, probably contracted that out.

[corey thompson]

I used a lot of Mitch's- they had similar windows, but were joined at the chainstay side, not the seatstay side, and I don't think he offered them without eyelets.

Here's an image Kirk sent me in September 2009 when he was getting ready to make them. I used one set when they came out.
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[bulgie]

Yeah that looks likely, but still not 100%. On Andy's, the "land" for the fender eyelet is connected to the one for the axle by an isthmus. You could say the eyelet is a peninsula not an island? (OK no one would say that...)

Whether Mitch had his own made or bought them from someone (Kirk?), this one on his Flickr seems to have a family resemblance, including the isthmus.

Ah nevermind, here's a good close-up of the windowed MAP dropouts, and they don't have the isthmus, so Mitch went through different styles I guess. Probably Kirk did too.

Mitch's also have the tab to go up inside the stay, and Andy's mystery drops don't have the tabs. So I hereby retract my statement that Andy's are MAP!

I do like a good mystery though.