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    Default More Design: Essential things you didn't know you needed

    We are looking to replace our 12yr old Volvo and came across this fabulous piece of engineering: the Red Key. If you use the Red Key to start the car, top speed is limited to 120km/h (nice) and the audio volume cannot rise above middle levels (genius). Not only will your kid be unable to tear around at crazy speed, they will be unable to blast DJ Khaled at your neighbours. Smart.
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    I find it obscene. The fact that itīs a key makes it a sinister metaphor to industries controlling your life.
    No wonder retro 60s cars mean style, freedom and sexyness... no matter how silly that is, the Volvo key makes it happen.

    If the kid does not behave, donīt give him the car keys.
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    Default Re: More Design: Essential things you didn't know you needed

    A sixties Volvo didn't go like a current one and industries controlling your life is foil hat material.
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    Default Re: More Design: Essential things you didn't know you needed

    Go ahead tell him the worse news. In three years (?) all new Volvos will be 100% electric.

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    Default Re: More Design: Essential things you didn't know you needed

    i thk its a great idea for kids.

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    Default Re: More Design: Essential things you didn't know you needed

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveP View Post
    i thk its a great idea for kids.
    Or, you could do what my dad did and give me access only to a Peugeot 504_diesel_station wagon with iirc a 4-speed manual tranny.

    '...top speed limited to 120'...ha, it was a joke trying to hit 80 in that thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Tall View Post
    Go ahead tell him the worse news. In three years (?) all new Volvos will be 100% electric.
    Not 100% electric....just not 100% combustion so hybrids will be a big part

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    Quote Originally Posted by bertiewhang View Post
    A sixties Volvo didn't go like a current one and industries controlling your life is foil hat material.
    Who cares about 60s Volvos? I look at Porsches and Mercedes Benz sportsters. Saab cabriolets.
    A car that does not let sound and speed as a substitute for lack of authority? Yeah, who needs parents when you have the swedish state and car industry.
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    Default Re: More Design: Essential things you didn't know you needed

    Didn't the Corvette have a valet key that limited speed and/or power, over a decade ago?
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    Default Re: More Design: Essential things you didn't know you needed

    The 1990 ZR-1 had a valet key that limited power to ~210 hp from 375 hp. The Bugatti Chiron has a "Speed Key" that allows a top speed of 261 mph for a very short period of time, otherwise it's "limited" to a mere 236 mph. Progress!

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    Who cares about 60s Volvos? I look at Porsches and Mercedes Benz sportsters. Saab cabriolets.
    A car that does not let sound and speed as a substitute for lack of authority? Yeah, who needs parents when you have the swedish state and car industry.
    Forgive me for not making the blatantly obvious connection between new drivers, a total lack of respect for parents, cars being wrapped around trees, vintage sporting vehicles, the tyrannical Swedish state and car industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bertiewhang View Post
    Forgive me for not making the blatantly obvious connection between new drivers, a total lack of respect for parents, cars being wrapped around trees, vintage sporting vehicles, the tyrannical Swedish state and car industry.
    Well.. i believe the internet is also killing people so you are right, i should not have posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    I find it obscene. The fact that itīs a key makes it a sinister metaphor to industries controlling your life.
    No wonder retro 60s cars mean style, freedom and sexyness... no matter how silly that is, the Volvo key makes it happen.

    If the kid does not behave, donīt give him the car keys.
    Obscene?

    Hey, if you don't like the features of the key you have choices:

    1. Don't use the features;
    2. Don't use the key;
    3. Don't buy the car.

    No one is compelling you. No one is legislating it as a requirement. It is a functional feature that each person is free to use or ignore.

    You must get pretty angry at Facebook for being a business, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davids View Post
    Obscene?

    Hey, if you don't like the features of the key you have choices:

    1. Don't use the features;
    2. Don't use the key;
    3. Don't buy the car.

    No one is compelling you. No one is legislating it as a requirement. It is a functional feature that each person is free to use or ignore.

    You must get pretty angry at Facebook for being a business, huh?


    Get your son his own car and donīt be cheap.

    I get angry at facebook for spying private mails and bullying anyone who posts 18th century nude paintings... while You sound like those who buy any BS morality thrown at them.
    Obey in silence as much as you like. Just avoid passing judgement on other people cause you are not very good at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    Get your son his own car and donīt be cheap.

    I get angry at facebook for spying private mails and bullying anyone who posts 18th century nude paintings... while You sound like those who buy any BS morality thrown at them.
    Obey in silence as much as you like. Just avoid passing judgement on other people cause you are not very good at it.
    These seem like contradictory statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    Get your son his own car and donīt be cheap.

    I get angry at facebook for spying private mails and bullying anyone who posts 18th century nude paintings... while You sound like those who buy any BS morality thrown at them.
    Obey in silence as much as you like. Just avoid passing judgement on other people cause you are not very good at it.
    My dear Salonista,

    Your fury is directed at a consumer product. You do not have to buy the product. You do not have to use the feature. It's your choice (But hey, it's clearly your choice to be outraged that the feature is even offered!)

    My comments apply to Facebook just as much as to Volvo. If you don't like what Facebook is offering you are completely free to not use it. Completely. Free.

    As far as your attack on me?

    1. I don't have a son.
    2. I will be as cheap as I please. Parenthetically, I don't understand why my original post - pointing out that you're free to not buy a Volvo or not use the feature - led you to accuse me of being cheap.
    3. I don't "obey" consumer product companies. I either choose to use their products or to not use their products. They exert very little "control" over me either way.
    4. I wasn't "passing judgement" on you. I was arguing against your point.
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    From a design perspective, it would be good if companies could get on the same page about what the red key does. I hope nobody has both a Volvo and a Dodge Charger Hellcat...you wouldn't want to get those mixed up.


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    Default Re: More Design: Essential things you didn't know you needed

    But the torque... oh, baby. I may not need the Polestar tune when I trade in the C30 in 15 years...

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    Default Re: More Design: Essential things you didn't know you needed

    How much is the replacement when your kid loses the red key? $300-$500?

    (Two different people lost their e-keys one ski weekend in VT. One borrowed a car to drive home to NJ to get her spare and turned around the next day to come back to VT to retrieve her car. In the meantime, someone found her key on the slopes and turned it in to lost & found. It was cut across the middle by a ski but still working. The other borrowed a car to drive home to Boston to get his spare but his original key wasn't found.)
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    6 years ago, I would have traded in my Forester for a Volvo with this feature. It's all good we mad it but hey Zeus some scary times.
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