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    Default DIY Prepreg Redux.

    I have previously covered DIY prepreg using high TG epoxy and woven carbon. Until now unidirectional prepreg has been a problem but I've worked out a way of making my own, which means I can use the higher spec tow I use for filament winding. I am using Toray T1000 here which is 300 GPa vs about 240 for the commercial prepreg.

    I set up the filament winder with a drum of appropriate diameter covered in non-stick paper:



    and set it to hoop winding with an appropriate feed rate (2 mm for the 12k tow):



    (sorry for the shit pic, camera autofocussed on the winder not the drum).

    Whe finished I simply slice the non stick paper and cure in the oven to beta stage et voila, unidirectional prepreg:

    Mark Kelly

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    Default Re: It's been a long time coming

    Quote Originally Posted by Colinmclelland View Post
    Hi Mark,

    Can you tell us more about the carbon dropouts in FNL?
    It's been a lot more than a week but here they are:


    Polydrops

    Sorry but the combination of black dropouts on black carbon and my shit photography aren't going to light the world on fire.

    They worked out well but the next frame will use Paragon's "Bolt On Brake Interface" which should be easier to adapt, I am hoping it work at least as well.


    K_Bike_Scales

    On the other hand, I believe this is the lightest wood frame yet made by some margin at 1056 g. My wife says I should have made it ten grams heavier.

    I'd post a pic but I forgot to take any of the frame.
    Mark Kelly

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    Default Re: It's been a long time coming

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    It's been a lot more than a week but here they are:


    K_Bike_Scales

    On the other hand, I believe this is the lightest wood frame yet made by some margin at 1056 g. My wife says I should have made it ten grams heavier.
    It must be child sized though

    Like the BB evolution...took me a while but I finally got the 10g thing!
    Colin Mclelland

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    Default Re: It's been a long time coming

    Small to medium, to fit a 165 cm rider.

    Re the BB thing: thanks, this is my first attempt at something I am very hopeful for. It's an adaptation of yosegi zaiku, a traditional Japanese inlay technique. Each of the little bands is a separate strip of wood ~1mm wide, the thicker bands are simply two strips, so there are 30 to 40 individual pieces in each tile. The advantage is it's much more adaptable than the single wooden tiles I previously used. It looks a little busy close up but from further away it's actually quite subtle.

    I will eventually post up a little description of how it's done. I found the existing information a little frustrating as it is all hands on: do this and this and this and you'll get this result, while I wanted to know how to calculate the shapes and angles from first principles. To that end I worked out the trigonometry that governs the technique so it's all good now.

    After doing this bike I realised that I've been doing the joints backwards all along, I am going to try defining the joint area to have a constant width inlay band then adapting the tube laminae to fit that. I will also drop the carbon webs, they are too much of a PITA to do and I've never got them to work quite as well as I wanted.
    Mark Kelly

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    Default Re: It's been a long time coming

    Thanks Mark. The old yosegi zaiku.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    ...snip... I will also drop the carbon webs, they are too much of a PITA to do and I've never got them to work quite as well as I wanted.
    Just for kicks, let's pretend I'm not sure what you are talking about here....
    Colin Mclelland

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    Default On the reilience of Lyrebirds

    Lovely article on the resilience of Lyrebirds in the face of the devastation wreaked by last summer's fires, published today.

    Besides being an interesting piece in its own right, Lyrebirds surviving bushfires is a bit of a theme for me.
    Mark Kelly

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    Default Re: On the reilience of Lyrebirds

    Seems appropriate to share this here too:


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    Default Re: On the reilience of Lyrebirds

    Wow. Thanks Rich.
    Mark Kelly

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    Default Re: On the reilience of Lyrebirds

    That's the sort of thing you could be "blowing up" Matt's Instagram feed with....
    Colin Mclelland

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    Default Re: On the reilience of Lyrebirds

    For those who want to know what I look like when I haven't had a decent night's sleep for a month:




    "Meet the Maker" courtesy CyclingTips
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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles

    Three hundred hours. Three HUNDRED hours. THREE HUNDRED HOURS.

    Thanks for sharing that Mark! Masterful, beautiful work!
    Rick

    If the process is more important than the result, you play. If the result is more important than the process, you work.

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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles



    I did't like the yosegi zeiku inlay on the frame above so I've changed it. I like the simplicity of the new version, what say you?




    Sorry for the lousy pics, I've never been a good photographer.
    Mark Kelly

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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    I did't like the yosegi zeiku inlay on the frame above so I've changed it. I like the simplicity of the new version, what say you?
    Your best yet, Mark.

    I liked the previous iteration, but this gives a modern edge to your bikes; and the ‘arrow’ at the join gives a sense of forward motion. Love it.

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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles

    Really stunning work. Beautiful.

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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles

    Thanks Guys.

    Rich, I agree regarding cleaner lines, it made a greater difference than I expected. Future iterations should be a little neater; retrofitting to the existing layout was a pain.
    Mark Kelly

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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post

    I did't like the yosegi zeiku inlay on the frame above so I've changed it. I like the simplicity of the new version, what say you?
    Wow. I’m a fan. Late, but a fan. That is a cracker.

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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles

    Thanks Colin.

    Speaking of late, the new website is up. Still at beta stage as we work a few things out: the text in particular needs reworking.
    Mark Kelly

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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles

    Site looks good, Mark!

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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles

    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    Site looks good, Mark!
    It does indeed. Only looked on my phone, but I’m intrigued enough to fire up a laptop.

    Rich will probably buy one to flip, but I don’t think I can swing any of the $10k jerseys. Based on the price of socks, it’s probably not long until that’s seen as reasonable though!

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    Default Re: Lyrebird Cycles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    Thanks Colin.

    Speaking of late, the new website is up. Still at beta stage as we work a few things out: the text in particular needs reworking.
    Looking good Mark, but YOU are the selling point for a frame, not the tech or the process. It needs a LOT more about you - your approach, your ideas, your background, your personality. Some photos of your toiling over the filament winder you built, sipping a glass of vino etc etc

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