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    Default Re: There is no longer precedent for indicting a former US President!

    Quote Originally Posted by robin3mj View Post
    Guns, healthcare, opioids. All in the pursuit of profits and “freedom”.
    And about 40% of the electorate has no idea how they have been manipulated into voting in favor of these “policies”.

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    Default Re: There is no longer precedent for indicting a former US President!

    I’ve forwarded this to the police in case he tries to evade arrest.

    https://www.theonion.com/desperate-t...tan-1850288573
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    Quote Originally Posted by vertical_doug View Post
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    If anything, I'm afraid this energizes the base in Wisconsin to come out for the Supreme Justice election on Tuesday. This has huge importance nationally when you look at what has been happening in Wisconsin.
    'For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain an indictment, and lose his country?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
    Grant did it first. Horse buggy speeding repeat offender.


    https://www.npr.org/2023/03/31/11673...ed-trump-grant
    Ah man, you ruined it. haha Good find!

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    what bothers me is that Trump and the Republican party instead of defending on substance are bringing out the anti-Semitic tropes , taking a page out of the Elders Of Zion and saying this is a Soros led Jewish conspiracy. And people are shocked anti-semitism is on the rise. There's a connection.

    On a lighter note, I enjoyed this story from the Queens Eagle

    starts with :

    A Queens man was indicted Thursday for allegedly making hush money payments to a porn star shortly before he was elected president of the United States in 2016.


    https://queenseagle.com/all/2023/3/3...QTnoKq-neNQ_LQ

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    There are some pretty good images posted by this gent on Twitter…
    https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/sta...240704/photo/1
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    hey, how lucky can one man get.

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    Default Re: There is no longer precedent for indicting a former US President!

    Quote Originally Posted by rwsaunders View Post


    There are some pretty good images posted by this gent on Twitter…
    https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/sta...240704/photo/1
    The only problem with most of these pictures is that the AI has clearly got his height and weight from his medical reports...
    It's not the years, honey. It's the mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertical_doug View Post
    There is unfortunately there is zero chance of the current republican party doing anything about guns.

    The press is working overtime flooding the newscycle with misinformation and wild speculation.

    I think we can assume Bragg is not a dope, so the indictment will probably be less to do with Stormy and more to do with a pattern of activity. (Hence, David Pecker as a witness)

    If anything, I'm afraid this energizes the base in Wisconsin to come out for the Supreme Justice election on Tuesday. This has huge importance nationally when you look at what has been happening in Wisconsin.
    A lot of people working hard to make Israel politics look like a test drive.

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    I am horrified by T Carlson advocating violence. For money. For ratings. Fomenting riot. Sowing the wind.
    Jay Dwight

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    Default Re: There is no longer precedent for indicting a former US President!

    So I prompted chatGPT to critique Alan Dershowitz response to Trump indictment from the War Room.

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    Sure, I can provide a legal analysis of the statements made by Alan Dershowitz regarding the indictment of Donald Trump.

    First, regarding Dershowitz's statement that the charges could be dismissed by any objective judge, it is important to note that this is a matter for the court to decide based on the evidence presented. While Dershowitz is entitled to his opinion, it is not accurate to suggest that the charges are so weak that they would be dismissed outright by any objective judge. The charges against Trump are serious and involve alleged violations of campaign finance laws and possible obstruction of justice.

    Second, Dershowitz suggests that the charges against Trump are minor and not worthy of prosecution, comparing them to actions taken by thousands of people every year. However, the fact that others may engage in similar conduct does not absolve Trump of potential criminal liability. The charges against him are based on specific actions he allegedly took to conceal payments to women who claimed to have had affairs with him, in violation of campaign finance laws. Moreover, the fact that other people may commit similar offenses does not diminish the seriousness of the alleged conduct.

    Third, Dershowitz suggests that Michael Cohen, the prosecution's key witness, is not a credible source of information. While it is true that Cohen has pleaded guilty to lying to Congress, his cooperation with prosecutors could still be valuable in proving the charges against Trump. The court will consider the evidence presented by both sides, including any testimony from Cohen and other witnesses, in determining whether or not Trump is guilty of the charges against him.

    In summary, while Dershowitz is entitled to his opinion on the charges against Trump, it is important to remember that the case will ultimately be decided by the court based on the evidence presented. The charges against Trump are serious and involve alleged violations of campaign finance laws and possible obstruction of justice. The court will consider all the evidence presented, including any testimony from witnesses like Michael Cohen, in determining whether or not Trump is guilty of the charges against him.

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    Third, Dershowitz suggests that Michael Cohen, the prosecution's key witness, is not a credible source of information. While it is true that Cohen has pleaded guilty to lying to Congress, his cooperation with prosecutors could still be valuable in proving the charges against Trump. The court will consider the evidence presented by both sides, including any testimony from Cohen and other witnesses, in determining whether or not Trump is guilty of the charges against him



    Trump picked Cohen , not Bragg. If only honest people could be fact witnesses we'd never take down mafia figures and all witnesses would be nuns and girl scouts. Only thing that matters is whether the grand jury believes Cohen is truthful now and whether his account is corroborated by other testimony and is supported by documentary evidence

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    Trump reporting to court.

    (Sorry, I had to do it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Thompson View Post
    Trump reporting to court.

    (Sorry, I had to do it.)
    so fake - the man can't run, everyone knows that. unless a hamburger buffet were involved, of course.
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    The subject line of this thread is self evident. Bless you boy but Hampster got it wrong, that's our man tossing a hissy after throwing his buffet contents on the wall. We get it man, nobody should have to stand in line for anything ever according to illiberal GOP rhetorical society....which brings me around to the Motherfrickin'Point. Because Heather Cox R. is always on point I'm just going to liberate a few of her plumb words from today and step away from the dais :

    The principles of liberal democracy made nineteenth-century writer Harriet Beecher Stowe turn her grief for her dead eighteen-month-old son into the best-selling novel Uncle Tom’s Cabin, which showed why no mother’s child should be sold away from her. It made Rose Herera sue her former enslaver for custody of her own children after the Civil War. It made Julia Ward Howe demand the right to vote so her abusive husband could not control her life any longer.

    It made Black mathematician and naturalist Benjamin Banneker call out Thomas Jefferson for praising liberty while denying it to Black Americans; Sitting Bull defend the right of the Lakota to practice their own new religion, even though he did not believe in it; Saum Song Bo tell The New York Sun he was insulted by their request for money to build a pedestal for the Statue of Liberty when, three years before, the country had excluded people like him; Dr. Héctor García realize that Mexican Americans needed to be able to vote in order to protect themselves; Edward Roberts claim the right to get an education despite his physical paralysis; drag king Stormé DeLarverie throw the first punch at the Stonewall riot that jump-started the gay rights movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Tall View Post
    Because Heather Cox R. is always on point...
    Ref: Letters from an American - Heather Cox Richardson
    Last edited by thollandpe; 04-04-2023 at 11:15 AM.
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