Coconino Cycles

[steve garro]

August 2011 update coconino cycles custom bicycles 928 774 7747 www.coconinocycles.com: Early August 2011 - tired! - Garro.

[steve garro]

A quick update on stuff & things coconino cycles custom bicycles 928 774 7747 www.coconinocycles.com: Checking in. - Garro.

[JoB]

Answer to your question is 'yes', i always follow the link to your blog. didn't know they had peaches out in AZ ... thought it'd be too cold in the winter for that.

[edoz]

I check it too, Steve. Keep posting.

[Shoogs]

Hell yeah I read and dream a bit every post

[zetroc]

I read every post. Love the photos, keep it up Steve.

[roguedog]

me too.. i take a gander at your bikes and the lovely flagstaff area pics you put up.

[steve garro]

Thanks guys! Any input on things people would like to see or questions very much welcome - Garro.

[Britishbane]

I regularly check as well. Love the photos.

[treadonme]

Steve, how 'bout some info on possible messenger bags?

[steve garro]

Steve, how 'bout some info on possible messenger bags?

Ha! that went away - my buddy BW is making BOB trailer liners and other things for Bike Trailer Shop | Bicycle Cargo, Travel, and Pet Trailers and also "handlebar buckets" and mesh critter bags. He totally ditched the Messenger bag idea. Maybe when I slow down I'll heap it on the pile of all the cool things I want to do!
Thanks - Garro.

[steve garro]

I always get pegged as building "heavy" bikes, why I don't know - maybe the touring bikes?
So I got a scale. The 26" bike with Paul dropouts which will last for a lifetime = 4.13lbs.
29er for a 180lb endurance racer, will also last a lifetime = 5.1lbs
whadda you guys think? - Garro.

[treadonme]

What do I think?
I love your framesets, and those 2 are killer.

I'm interested in things you do to make them last a lifetime. Can you explain a little?
Generalities are fine, please don't give away any 'secret sauce'.
Ha!

[steve garro]

What do I think?
I love your framesets, and those 2 are killer.

I'm interested in things you do to make them last a lifetime. Can you explain a little?
Generalities are fine, please don't give away any 'secret sauce'.
Ha!

Hey - Thanks! it's just the little things, I reckon - shoving 1/2 a rod of brass into the end of each stay at the dropout, and using only slightly thicker headtube stock for big bikes - that kind of stuff. Bigger fillets. Seat tube sleeves. H2O diamonds. Little things that amount to crossing your "t's' and dotting your "i's". I reckon I could drop an easy .5lb off almost every frame but what about longevity and reliability? it's not the fastest guy who wins the race - it's the 1st guy to the finish line.

the 26" had tubing that would not be out of place on a road bike - .7mm toptube, .8/.5/.8mm DT, 36.5mm OD headtube, .9/.6mm stattube, 1/.7mm CS's and "secret sauce" SS's

A 29er has the same, but maybe only .2mm thicker throughout - evey .7/.4/.7mm 29er out there is ripe for bustin'.

Shop guy EP just built a Kaisei/HJ lugged track bike that comes out at 1.16 kilo - dang!

- Garro.

[steve garro]

What's going on: coconino cycles custom bicycles 928 774 7747 www.coconinocycles.com: Working right along, Off for the next four days, Build queue info. - Garro.

[edoz]

evey .7/.4/.7mm 29er out there is ripe for bustin'.



- Garro.

Columbus' "29er" tubeset is 7/4/7 and I'm constantly tempted to build myself one and see how it holds up.

[steve garro]

Columbus' "29er" tubeset is 7/4/7 and I'm constantly tempted to build myself one and see how it holds up.

With an ATC of <42.5cm you would be OK - stick a 50+cm ATC on there & no garro-ntees........
- Garro.

[edoz]

Now that I look at the Bringheli page again I see the dt is 7/6/7 and the tt is 7/5/7. I may try it out for a new non suspension single speed.

[steve garro]

Now that I look at the Bringheli page again I see the dt is 7/6/7 and the tt is 7/5/7. I may try it out for a new non suspension single speed.

Nice of you to be your own test subject rather then your clients!
- Garro.

[edoz]

Nice of you to be your own test subject rather then your clients!
- Garro.

Lol, I'd need clients for that.