well this is complete bullshit

[spopepro]

V_Doug: yeah... I've got stories. And yes, there is a very twisted idea these days about what constitutes being an advocate for your kid. It isn't helped by internet sites and fora that have detailed instructions/discussions about how to get what you want from a school at any cost.

Davids: *exactly* People usually recoil in shock when I say good sex ed starts in kindergarten, but good sex ed isn't it's own subject at all. It's all personal health, physical and mental, appropriate social interaction and biology. The kids might even grow up thinking that sex is *gasp* a normal and important part of their lives.

And because I maybe wasn't clear: MMike: yes it's bullshit. My bigger point was about how people arrive at bullshit rules.

[sbornia]

Since we're sharing NYTimes articles, here's one about an ambitious undertaking: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/ma...-good-sex.html. I think it's pretty cool.

Hey, that's my school! Albeit nearly 25 years after graduating. How things have changed. Thanks for sharing that.

[GrantM]

What would someone your age even have to say to an 18 year old?

(I'll set 'em up. You knock 'em down.)

In the 3rd year Research Analysis university course i was taking this year,
most of the female students referred to the demographic ranges in their survey data as:

under 25: young people
25-45: middle age
over 45: retired/old people

when they self selected the age ranges for their questionnaire analysis,
they grouped everyone over 40 in the same category.

-g

[davids]

What would someone your age even have to say to an 18 year old?

(I'll set 'em up. You knock 'em down.)

Yeah, it's both a joke and a cliche. But a generation's difference is a generation's difference.

Every one of us will, if we're lucky, live long enough to grow old. Deal with it.

[pruckelshaus]

I am a high school teacher and have seen far more prom dresses that boggle the mind than I care to remember. I'm not a Puritan by any stretch, but if a young lady is concerned about her boobs falling out because of her dress, she should be wearing a different dress.

I'm a heterosexual 45 year old male (and a father to two daughters), and there really are things on teenage girls that I just don't want to see.

Pete

[Matthew J]

While the clothing leaves less to the imagination, I'm not certain the mores have changed all that much - least ways not since the 1980s. At my suburban Chicago catholic high school the convention was to have your first complete sexual encounter junior prom night.

Oblivious, I failed to understand my date's chagrin on suggesting I take her straight home when the music stopped. (She mocked me about this at the 25th reunion a few years back)

[Bruce Day]

The girls are often much more forward than the boys, witness the prom porno dresses. I was home one night when my 13 year old athlete/popular son at the top school in town got a call from a 14 year old girl telling him she would give him a blow job if he went out with her.

By the way, he just biked 100 miles on the Potomac river road trail and is running the Marine Corps Marathon. Twenty five now and in DC, former Congressional aide and working for a public policy firm. The oldest is also in DC with the State Dept and bikes to work. The middle one is still here and bikes and is a tri-athlete. Yes, I'm proud of them.