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    Jerk,

    Can you get someone else in the shop to handle the mail orders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodador View Post
    Jerk,

    Can you get someone else in the shop to handle the mail orders?
    you looking for a job?

    why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerk View Post
    you looking for a job?

    why?
    Uh, it's a joke.

    Because of your Unabomber quote above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodador View Post
    Uh, it's a joke.

    Because of your Unabomber quote above.
    got it. i'm slow on the uptake.....

    if the box is ticking; it might not be you're super record chain tool.

    c

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerk View Post
    i got this one on a sex tour of new zealand.

    you wanna borrow it?

    jerk
    you laugh about this like some adolescent atmo. that's bullshit, and lucky for you we have a new president and it's a new day. some folks here make jokes about stuff that mebbe 3-4 of us here take seriously, and know intimately atmo. this stuff matters. sinatra matters. and while we're at it, so does the tappen zee bridge. but i digress. some here go on and on about these stupid fit issues and try to make a lifetime's worth of learning into a formula or a catch-all phrase. again - total bullshit atmo. kops this, non-setback seatpost that. and don't get me started on frame angles. i haven't measured one since mike neel sent pal rudy s back from the tour de l'avenir all broken and dejected. it was a new day when that happened. a line in the fucking sandmo. a message from above imho. yet you folks here continue to beat this geo shit to death. some of you may get it - one day. others here are too wide and too soft, and lack the depth to grasp this, and the fitness to make it all go. and still, we see these inane threads about what goes where atmo. heck when i had my rockets 7s made i simply stepped in the jizz box and sent it back to a suburb in seattle. i didn't call the cats up and ask them where the shoe laces were made or how many stitches per inch were used in the uppers atmo. but you all still post looking for that magic bullet about position and frame design. you want the truth? you can't handle the truth! craig, we live in a world that has walls. and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. who's gonna do it? you? you, senor jerk? i have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. you weep for carlos sastres and you curse operation puerto. you have that luxury. you have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that casartelli's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...you don't want the truth. because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on this message board. you need me on this message board. we use words like setback, linear, intervals...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. you use 'em as a punchline. i have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very magnanimity i provide, then questions the manner in which i provide it! i'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. otherwise, i suggest you pick up a paterak manual and stand a post. either way, i don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!


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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    you laugh about this like some adolescent atmo. that's bullshit, and lucky for you we have a new president and it's a new day. some folks here make jokes about stuff that mebbe 3-4 of us here take seriously, and know intimately atmo. this stuff matters. sinatra matters. and while we're at it, so does the tappen zee bridge. but i digress. some here go on and on about these stupid fit issues and try to make a lifetime's worth of learning into a formula or a catch-all phrase. again - total bullshit atmo. kops this, non-setback seatpost that. and don't get me started on frame angles. i haven't measured one since mike neel sent pal rudy s back from the tour de l'avenir all broken and dejected. it was a new day when that happened. a line in the fucking sandmo. a message from above imho. yet you folks here continue to beat this geo shit to death. some of you may get it - one day. others here are too wide and too soft, and lack the depth to grasp this, and the fitness to make it all go. and still, we see these inane threads about what goes where atmo. heck when i had my rockets 7s made i simply stepped in the jizz box and sent it back to a suburb in seattle. i didn't call the cats up and ask them where the shoe laces were made or how many stitches per inch were used in the uppers atmo. but you all still post looking for that magic bullet about position and frame design. you want the truth? you can't handle the truth! craig, we live in a world that has walls. and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. who's gonna do it? you? you, senor jerk? i have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. you weep for carlos sastres and you curse operation puerto. you have that luxury. you have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that casartelli's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...you don't want the truth. because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on this message board. you need me on this message board. we use words like setback, linear, intervals...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. you use 'em as a punchline. i have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very magnanimity i provide, then questions the manner in which i provide it! i'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. otherwise, i suggest you pick up a paterak manual and stand a post. either way, i don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!

    So this nun and donkey are walking down the street......

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    the essence of good fit is economy of word, as well as economy of thought atmo.

    That sums up George Bush and the screwed up system that got/kept him in
    quite nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    That sums up George Bush and the screwed up system that got/kept him in
    quite nicely.
    well i took care of all of that last tuesday atmo.

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    looks like someone was bending the shyt out of his frames.





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    Bits here speak for me as well

    snipped

    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    try to make a lifetime's worth of learning into a formula or a catch-all phrase. again - total bullshit atmo.

    some of you may get it - one day. others here are too wide and too soft, and lack the depth to grasp this, and the fitness to make it all go.

    but you all still post looking for that magic bullet about position and frame design.

    you want the truth? you can't handle the truth!

    and I will add, this stuff is a phd that is never never ever ever finished,
    for any one

    So writting about it in a "how to in detail "on a forum is just silly folly.
    So many posts ask and so many answer over the years :sheep: with much of the content so far from the context of real life that I choke.
    I don't have the answers to it.
    I can just explain a little of how I have seeked and learn and observed and toiled and traveled to gain a little feeling of this stuff.
    and it will never end!
    What urks me is clowns with nothing better to do at the work place key board but ponder magic seat tube angles and ride reports of 12 spoke carbon rimmed clincher wheels

    yeah and I feeling like being terse, because I only got to ride my bike once since Sunday

    Love Dazza

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    well i took care of all of that last tuesday atmo.
    :beerglass::beerglass:

    The whole globe smiled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    Bits here speak for me as well

    snipped




    and I will add, this stuff is a phd that is never never ever ever finished,
    for any one

    So writting about it in a "how to in detail "on a forum is just silly folly.
    So many posts ask and so many answer over the years :sheep: with much of the content so far from the context of real life that I choke.
    I don't have the answers to it.
    I can just explain a little of how I have seeked and learn and observed and toiled and traveled to gain a little feeling of this stuff.
    and it will never end!
    What urks me is clowns with nothing better to do at the work place key board but ponder magic seat tube angles and ride reports of 12 spoke carbon rimmed clincher wheels

    yeah and I feeling like being terse, because I only got to ride my bike once since Sunday

    Love Dazza

    daz -
    i was joking atmo...

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    Default and I will add

    get on ya bikes
    and ride
    ride till you suffer
    and suffer some more
    and go back and suffer more again
    and do it day after day and week after week
    does not matter if you race, tour or commute
    suffer on the bike is to be honourable

    Suffer = in the mind and/or body

    and the exchange rate is pretty good at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    daz -
    i was joking atmo...

    Yes I know
    but some of it still rings true to me
    and so
    I was not joking about the parts I left in from the snipping
    It is Friday here and I am on a mission
    to be................................................ ..........................

    I will go away as soon as I finish my cup of tea
    just dropped Ginger at the railway station, she now contributes to the Australian economy.

    Cheers Dazza
    Last edited by Dazza; 11-06-2008 at 06:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    Yes I know
    but some of it still rings true to me
    and so
    I was not joking about the parts I left in from the snipping
    It is Friday here and I am on a mission
    to be................................................ ..........................

    I will go away as soon as I finish my cup of tea
    just dropped Ginger at the railway station, she now contributes to the Australian economy.

    Cheers Dazza

    well it is all true atmo, especially the part about me not axing the rocket 7
    cats about how my shoes were made. they said if i had an inch of clearance
    when i stood over them, that meant they fit. trust is paramount atmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    ...trust is paramount atmo.

    knowing who to trust is paramount

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    Default had my cup of tea

    feeling better now
    off to drop some friends at the pool
    and then down to cave to some mindless stem lug polishing
    {every one knows that polished stems fit better}

    Bike geo under the rider is important.
    The rider is important
    Being fit over rules position and bike fit

    Love Dazza :knuddel:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1215 View Post
    knowing who to trust is paramount
    atmo -

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    dazza, for the record, 'dropping friends off at the pool' is a euphemism for um...
    going number 2.

    i shit you not.
    shrink, terrorist, poet, president of concerned cyclists for the abolishment of bovine source bicycle parts and head of the disaffected commie dishwashers union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swoop View Post
    dazza, for the record, 'dropping friends off at the pool' is a euphemism for um...
    going number 2.

    i shit you not.
    do you want to know how many co-plunks there was ?

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