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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    Quote Originally Posted by afwalker View Post
    Attachment 87837
    Not butted
    andy
    Dude.

    It has the butting profiles listed right by each tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Dude.

    It has the butting profiles listed right by each tube.

    - Garro.
    It has the wall thickness, diameter, and tube length. The Inox appears to be straight gauge.
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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Neide View Post
    It has the wall thickness, diameter, and tube length. The Inox appears to be straight gauge.
    I'm just looking at the picture he posted.

    Given the issues that expensive stainless tubing has, cheap stainless sounds unappealing at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    I'm just looking at the picture he posted.

    Given the issues that expensive stainless tubing has, cheap stainless sounds unappealing at best.

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    No argument from me! I got burned recently on a new stainless product from a company with a fantastic reputation. I'm not about to play beta tester again.
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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    Isn't the internet wonderful. Yes I saw the butting profiles, but there was a question on the fork blades being oval, so there's a picture of them.
    Just trying to be helpful. I had a nice conversation with Joe Brighelli and I'm bringing it to the table here.
    I wish they were butted, and they cost almost as much as XCR, so there you go.
    Probably not going to be a useful tubeset for most, but it is "off-beat" :)
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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    Quote Originally Posted by afwalker View Post
    I had to do some digging, but here are the specs for Thecno Inox, by Walter through Bringheli
    Attachment 87837
    Not butted, Joe can mix and match with XCR however. I'm just planning to use the seat stays.
    There are fork blades however.
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    Very thin!
    To get the taper they must be very ductile or annealed a few times to get there.
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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    Hello all!

    Thanks so much for the lively discussion! I'm returning to framebuilding after a 10-year hiatus, and I am impressed with the availability of lugs, tubesets, and online forum information! A lot of changes, for sure. Here is a link to a French company who has posted the Thecno tubing catalogue as a .PDF:

    Ets Rouchouze » Catalogue 2014

    Mr. Bringheli is selling some Thecno tubes.

    Also, Merry Sales in CA does distribute Tange Prestige now. I tried to upload their spec sheet, but it failed. I'll try again, Thanks!

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    Hello all!

    Thanks for the lively discussion on framebuilding equipment! I'm just getting back to a little framebuilding after a 10-year hiatus. There's an amazing amount of tubes, lugs, and online info available now! Here is a link to a French company website which has the .PDF catalogue for Thecno Tubing:Tange Prestige.jpg

    Ets Rouchouze » Catalogue 2014

    And I have also attached a .JPG of the Tange Prestige tubing specs, as distributed by Merry Sales, CA. Thanks again!

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    Hello all!

    I buy from Thecno (previously named walter), are located in Italy and for me (i'm italian) they are very comfy, I used their 4130 tubing and lugs, the tubing are very good, cheaper but heavier than deda or columbus.
    It is the perfect choice to make frames less performing but more economic (are always double butted tube)
    The inox set is very cheaper respect Reynold or Colubus (and included the fork blades) but are constant thickness, so much less technical.
    they also sell many other parts, steel pipes, aluminum carbon if you want I have the latest catalog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicokosch View Post
    they also sell many other parts, steel pipes, aluminum carbon if you want I have the latest catalog.
    Yes, please!


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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Yep.

    Pretty standard diameters and thicknesses for general road use.

    NOT the same as the old Prestige, which was beautiful, I got to use lots of it, just beautiful.
    Too short for MTB's nowadays

    Some other really beautiful tubing is Kaisei, which can be acquired from United Bicycle Institute


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    I don't see Kaisei tubing listed on UBI's website. Do they, or anyone else, still offer it?
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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    I sure hope so they still have it! just ordered a few sets before the new year, and it was available on the ubi website then. Great tubing.
    dan polito

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    Here is a soon to be new to me 1970s Bernard Carre frame built from Super Vitus 971. I plan to ride the snot out of it, so I'll let you know how it behaves....
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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    Which will have less to do with the tube set then the geometry. Andy.
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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    Not terribly offbeat, but Tange tubing is distributed in Europe by Jaycee

    He also sells a few other interesting Tange bits. Anyway, here's the frame parts catalogue - all prices are retail with a 30-40% discount for framebuilders, so pretty good prices for those in Europe at least.

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    PS. Has anyone picked up on Thecno's oddball 'Project Shield' minilugs? They're shaped to allow plus or minus ten degrees of articulation. There's some nice pictures on page 110 (actual PDF page, not page number) of their catalogue.

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    Default Re: Off-Beat Steel Tubesets?

    Quote Originally Posted by cicli polito View Post
    I sure hope so they still have it! just ordered a few sets before the new year, and it was available on the ubi website then. Great tubing.
    UBI is no longer carrying kaisei. Apparently Jan H and the folks at compass are looking into distributing full sets of tubes in addition to the fork blades that they currently stock.
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