The definitive Pinot Noir (Red Wine) thread.

[BBB]

Here in Australia the cooler regions produce wonderful Pinot (Adelaide Hills, Yarra Valley, Mornington Peninsula, Gippsland and Tasmania). NZ also produce some terrific Pinot. With Burgundy, you are probably looking at $AU120 before you hit a really good Pinot, so that is starting to price things out of reach.

[Matthew J]

Years ago I found a great Barbaresco a 2004 Vietti. Bought the same bottle a year ago and it was awful. Never seen a wine age so poorly unless it was just a bad bottle.

Do you trust the source of the second bottle? Counterfeiting remains a major problem in the Italian food, drink and luxury trade.

In general, Barbaresco is a wine to drink, not cellar. Thus my earlier point the vintage I so enjoyed is increasingly hard to find.

[fastupslowdown]

Do you trust the source of the second bottle? Counterfeiting remains a major problem in the Italian food, drink and luxury trade.

In general, Barbaresco is a wine to drink, not cellar. Thus my earlier point the vintage I so enjoyed is increasingly hard to find.

I'd go with the theory it wasn't properly stored before accepting that conclusion, which was my leading theory by the way. Vietti barbaresco counterfieted? i doubt it.

[jimbo]

We've been drinking some Chalk Hill pinot lately; very good bang for buck for weeknight wine. Erath estate pinots are good, along with Drouhin.

Erath and Drouhin are only a few miles apart in the Dundee Hills outside of Portland. Spent an afternoon tasting there and thought some were really great. Why does wine always taste better at the winery?

But nothing will ever compare to the two days spent wine tasting with friends in Chablis and Beaune, France. Almost all were whites, but wow, wow, wow. My wife and I both thought about leaving our S&S bikes behind and just filling the bike cases with all the wine we could fit.

Like I said, this thread needs pics.

Since you mentioned Erath Estate Pinot:

[Matthew J]

I'd go with the theory it wasn't properly stored before accepting that conclusion, which was my leading theory by the way. Vietti barbaresco counterfieted? i doubt it.

Sure, Occam's Razor.

But, it does not take much to glue a label to a bottle of vinegar. And of course so much of Italian olive oil sold in the US is rape seed. If the volume is there, you don't need to have that much margin to make it worthwhile.

[jimbo]

Sampling a little Seven Springs with Fletcher.

[jimbo]

Colene Clemens Dopp Creek. Good but nowhere near as good as the Margo, or Adriane

[Toddykins]

I will play - tonight's agenda, Sonoma

[Mark Kelly]

A to Z and La Crema seem to be the two everyday pinots around our house.

I had a glass of '14 La Crema at a local wine bar last night; unusual because US wine is rare here, being regarded as poor value for money.

Interesting wine: obviously grown in a warm area and quite bretty (IMO all too common in California), but a decent drink nonetheless.

[jimbo]

Purple Hands WV 2015. Delicious and under $30. I'm a club member of PH and Cody's single vineyard bottlings are wonderful. The WV is a blend of 6 vineyards and is worth getting if you can find it.

[jimbo]

This one took awhile. It had to breathe and by the time I had drank the first glass it had mellowed out. I do like the colder climate vintages.

[rwsaunders]

I'm taking notes Jimbo and headed to the wine store later this evening.

[jimbo]

Winderlea.
There's an area of Dundee that runs along Worden Hill Rd. Fletcher and I discovered it by bike. On this slope of some really Jory soil (they dont call it Red Hills for nothing) sits Winderlea Vineyard, kinda right in-between 2 of my favorites; Arterberry Maresh and Cameron. This is a long time viticultural area and the vines in this area are very old. The old Goldschmidt vineyard (now Winderlea) dates back to 1974.

Being a lover of Pinots, I like them all. The big fruity ones and the colder climate mineraly ones. 2013 was a cold climate year.
I do like the Weber vineyard bottling of this vintage better, but this one is no slouch. Lots of up front fruit; raspberry and cherry with a hint of cranberry tartness. Mid palate brings minerals and a dank earthiness that is not spicy or tannin but there is some tobacco and clove in there. It finishes softly and lingers on your tongue.

[fletcher]

2011 Penner-Ash Pas de Nom rocking my world tonight.

[BBB]

Someone drink some Pinot please...

[BBB]

Does Cabernet count...???


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