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    Steve- Yea... good luck with that one:) Andy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart View Post
    Steve- Yea... good luck with that one:) Andy
    What do you mean?

    That's a really easy commission.




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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    "Let me know if this is a project you'd like to take on. I really hope you will."
    Fuckin A, bubba, put that in the wiki.

    That's a person who deserves a decent bike, I can't wait to see photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thollandpe View Post
    Fuckin A, bubba, put that in the wiki.

    That's a person who deserves a decent bike, I can't wait to see photos.
    This is the guy who runs / invented the Vapor Trail 125

    Vapor Trail 125 – Presented by Ergon and Absolute Bikes



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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
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    I need a pretty slack seat tube angle to get KOPS. ..... I like bikes that are responsive. I enjoy riding fast on a twisty bit of singletrack, but I've never been the kind of fast like some of the people I know. I like the bike to be nimble at speed. Slack angle bikes feel sluggish to me at low speed. I spend a lot of time at low speed these days. I don't like pedal strikes.

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    Let me know if this is a project you'd like to take on. I really hope you will."






    - Garro.

    This is the kind of client I've been working with/designing for all my 'building life. Unless he/she spends most or all of their time in the saddle, the seat tube should be slacker than the old "standard" 73 degrees. The fork should be set up so it is supple on small hits but doesn't bottom out, and whatever the travel, I always designed around a 40-50% "sag." I set up some bikes with sliding rear thru-axles and Saint derailleurs. I did find a kind of branching point where the bike is designed around either for dedicated out-of-the-saddle riding, or mixed use with a lot of long cross-country stretches.

    WTH, it must have been BMX racing that rotted my brain! To Quote Garro again: : "You know, one of the most important questions you can ask your client for a MTB is 'Can you wheelie?' and if yes, 'Can you Manual?'

    If you can or cannot determines ALLOT about the needs of the client, geometry, frame design, and tubing and component choice."

    jn

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_norstog View Post
    This is the kind of client I've been working with/designing for all my 'building life. Unless he/she spends most or all of their time in the saddle, the seat tube should be slacker than the old "standard" 73 degrees. The fork should be set up so it is supple on small hits but doesn't bottom out, and whatever the travel, I always designed around a 40-50% "sag." I set up some bikes with sliding rear thru-axles and Saint derailleurs. I did find a kind of branching point where the bike is designed around either for dedicated out-of-the-saddle riding, or mixed use with a lot of long cross-country stretches.

    WTH, it must have been BMX racing that rotted my brain! To Quote Garro again: : "You know, one of the most important questions you can ask your client for a MTB is 'Can you wheelie?' and if yes, 'Can you Manual?'

    If you can or cannot determines ALLOT about the needs of the client, geometry, frame design, and tubing and component choice."

    jn
    You got it, Hastiin !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_norstog View Post
    To Quote Garro again: : "You know, one of the most important questions you can ask your client for a MTB is 'Can you wheelie?' and if yes, 'Can you Manual?'

    If you can or cannot determines ALLOT about the needs of the client, geometry, frame design, and tubing and component choice."

    I gotta learn how to manual and re-learn how to wheelie.
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