Washing machines and solar panels so far.

[woodworker]

Mssrs. Smoot and Hawley would be proud.

Yes they would.

So would the bad penny that just keeps turning up.

Recycling lousy ideas--nationalism, protectionism, xenophobia and short-sighted economic policies.

...on the positive side, I did a track workout, and the endorphin-induced afterglow hasn't fully left the body yet.

[rabo]

For the cycling content:
How much of the parts we, and the major players use, really are coming from the far east at the moment?
At the moment I can get reputable - non reputable carbon rims from China for a fraction of the price of domestiques.
Add to that the crazy "free shipping" deal that j44ke explained before.
I'm all for workers rights but for >= 5x as much?

[ericpmoss]

If we want a country that's more than some shithole with nukes, we need to be willing to pay more.

[woodworker]

If we want a country that's more than some shithole with nukes, we need to be willing to pay more.

Funny.

...apparently so.

[fastupslowdown]

i got really angry about both.


so first a story about whirlpool. they're not designing their products well. i have a refrigerator that unlike subzero has machinery protruding and taking up half of the top shelf making storage difficult. I also purchased a wine frig that doesn't fit wine, at least anything that is classified as Burgundy or from Piedmont. Samsung is not unfairly competing, they are out designing them. G.E. refused to properly invest in their product to the point they dumped their appliance unit to Haier.

the second is about the solar. if the Chinese want to sell solar panels below cost the rational economic decision is to buy as much as possible. it can only improve the united states competitive position, provide cheap energy and make us more competitive later. What we're effectively doing is raising the cost of energy in the United States which hurts both consumers and corporate users of energy. It may even be an underhanded way to aide the fossil fuel makers specifically coal since Trump's plan to have electric utility customers subsidize coal was thrown out by Trump appointed republican regulators -Mike G

[Too Tall]

The RV and boondocker (quick google that) forums are worried that the cost of portable solar panels will become unreachable. The broad spectrum of potentially affected consumers votes.

That's all I got.

[fastupslowdown]

The RV and boondocker (quick google that) forums are worried that the cost of portable solar panels will become unreachable. The broad spectrum of potentially affected consumers votes.

That's all I got.

trump's agenda has been to promote fossil fuels and to curtail wind and solar. i get not wanting to subsidize something, but trump is clearly not doing that. he's given breaks to fossil fuels and takes them away from alternate. that's not free market at all

[Too Tall]

trump's agenda has been to promote fossil fuels and to curtail wind and solar. i get not wanting to subsidize something, but trump is clearly not doing that. he's given breaks to fossil fuels and takes them away from alternate. that's not free market at all

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[fastupslowdown]

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i'll stop making sense right now

[guido]

Paul Krugman has an interesting piece on the tariffs today. One factoid jumped out:

"In 2017 the coal industry added 500, that’s right, 500 jobs. That’s 0.0003 percent of total U.S. employment."

the whole column here: The Economics of Dirty Old Men - The New York Times

[Too Tall]

Paul Krugman has an interesting piece on the tariffs today. One factoid jumped out:

"In 2017 the coal industry added 500, that’s right, 500 jobs. That’s 0.0003 percent of total U.S. employment."

the whole column here: The Economics of Dirty Old Men - The New York Times

Please see post #28.

[fastupslowdown]

different tariffs but same president. read this a while ago on Greg Mankiw's blog. I always liked Mankiw more than Krugman as Krugman tends to mix politics with economics, and he often strays from the areas of economics which are his core competency. For example he often writes about MMT despite not understanding it.


https://www.americanactionforum.org/...er-7_12_17.pdf

-Mike G

[ericpmoss]

BEST DOCUMENTARY EVER (tm):

Politics aside, this is the first thing I've seen that gives me an inkling of hope.

Cycling-related content: the Canary Island of El Hierro is on track to be 100% energy independent through wind and solar, with excess stored by filling reservoirs as 'gravity batteries'.

[thollandpe]

El Hierro is on track to be 100% energy independent through wind and solar, with excess stored by filling reservoirs as 'gravity batteries'.

We did that, but for almost the opposite problem. When they built the first nuke plants, this solved the problem of overproducing power at night, because the nukes weren't able to modulate and follow the load. So they pumped the rivers up to the reservoirs at night, and then reversed it to run turbines during the day to meet peak demand.

Bear Swamp went with Yankee Rowe, and Northfield Mountain was paired with Vermont Yankee. The hydro stations will outlast the nukes, interestingly.

Funny how that was seen as a solvable problem back then, but so often now the intermittence of renewables is thrown out as a show stopper.