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    you know what i want? some Phil Wood oval tubing.........steve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    FTW? i just sent my 87' Yeti to my buddie's MTB museum...... steve.
    That's the one. Dude's building some amazing VW's and Audis these days to go along with frames.


    Hardcore fabricator. Best dude, ever.



    I don't know many people who build bikes and turbo manifolds all in the same day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by suspectdevice View Post
    I don't know many people who build bikes and turbo manifolds all in the same day...
    how about Paul Brodie: http://www.flashbackfab.com/pages/excel00.html

    or Dave Garroute:http://www.dkg-cnc.com/museum.html some bad-ass fabrication in both of those links, yo. heck - Dave built the f'ing STARSHIP ENTERPRISE! off to work, steve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    how about Paul Brodie: http://www.flashbackfab.com/pages/excel00.html

    or Dave Garroute:http://www.dkg-cnc.com/museum.html some bad-ass fabrication in both of those links, yo. heck - Dave built the f'ing STARSHIP ENTERPRISE! off to work, steve.

    And Frank built the General Lee jump cars, the Back to the Future DeLorean, and the animatronics for Child's Play.

    Brodie's site is awesome. However much he charges for those repro bikes, it still can't be enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suspectdevice View Post

    Brodie's site is awesome. However much he charges for those repro bikes, it still can't be enough.
    same for the rest of us; we're all making repro's of something atmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt Goodrich View Post
    Sub 4# tigged maybe. Not with lugs though. The lightest max was 8-5-8 on a good day if they hit the spec. Otherwise it wondered north of that. What's the point other than goofy ovals? Hell why don't just bust out some SLX and really get your retro on? Oh yea, welcome back.
    Only tube that was 8/5/8 was the DT. And since when is Nivacrom retro? That's my point here, the names have changed, the marketing has changed, but the tubes are as they ever were. MAX was way ahead of the curve. Do you want to talk about my P.I.S.T.A. tubeset cuz that's state of the art!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archibald View Post
    Only tube that was 8/5/8 was the DT. And since when is Nivacrom retro? That's my point here, the names have changed, the marketing has changed, but the tubes are as they ever were. MAX was way ahead of the curve. Do you want to talk about my P.I.S.T.A. tubeset cuz that's state of the art!
    Nivacrom has been relegated to the second tier by Columbus for quite awhile now. Silly but true. Max ahead of what curve? Squished tubes? Old recycled idea. Nivacrom predated max so it isn't a material thing. Strangely shaped stays and fork blades? Well perhaps ahead of that curve but I'm not sure that's one worth writing home to mom about. People getting wet and sticky about max is an emotional thing based on a point in time. Probably the time they were cutting their teeth in the bike world was about the time Max was hip. Not my time so it does nothing for me and yes, I've built bikes with the crap. Didn't like it then and still don't. Always made me laugh when the ovals weren't in the proper phase. Mmm.. pinch me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt Goodrich View Post
    Nivacrom has been relegated to the second tier by Columbus for quite awhile now. Silly but true. Max ahead of what curve? Squished tubes? Old recycled idea. Nivacrom predated max so it isn't a material thing. Strangely shaped stays and fork blades? Well perhaps ahead of that curve but I'm not sure that's one worth writing home to mom about. People getting wet and sticky about max is an emotional thing based on a point in time. Probably the time they were cutting their teeth in the bike world was about the time Max was hip. Not my time so it does nothing for me and yes, I've built bikes with the crap. Didn't like it then and still don't. Always made me laugh when the ovals weren't in the proper phase. Mmm.. pinch me.
    Heretic! I will snatch you ball headed...

    We're talking about steel lugged bikes and you're saying this with a straight face?

    Seriously, look at the chemistry for Nivacrom and then at Columbus' latest. Hot dogs is hot dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archibald View Post
    Seriously, look at the chemistry for Nivacrom and then at Columbus' latest.
    we're doped in niobium atmo -


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    Quote Originally Posted by Archibald View Post
    Heretic! I will snatch you ball headed...

    We're talking about steel lugged bikes and you're saying this with a straight face?

    Seriously, look at the chemistry for Nivacrom and then at Columbus' latest. Hot dogs is hot dogs.
    Chemistry schmemistry. Shit it's all steel and all the same. Once it's stronger than 531 does it really matter what the metalurgy is? That was a rhetorical question. I'm talking about the goofy shapes based on theoretical engineering claims that can't be felt by even a princess like you. Couple that with the tubes being marketed for racing bikes but they're unnecessarily heavy. BTW I can't wait to see you in Indy. Hugs and kisses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt Goodrich View Post
    Chemistry schmemistry. Shit it's all steel and all the same. Once it's stronger than 531 does it really matter what the metalurgy is?
    I thought that's what I was saying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curt Goodrich View Post
    That was a rhetorical question. I'm talking about the goofy shapes based on theoretical engineering claims that can't be felt by even a princess like you. Couple that with the tubes being marketed for racing bikes but they're unnecessarily heavy. BTW I can't wait to see you in Indy. Hugs and kisses.
    Bike frames are essentially stress skin structures; the measurable product of shaped tubes aren't theoretical engineering claims. That'd be real. The benefits of the those results to cyclists are arguable.

    Regardless, I'm still kicking you in the nuts when I see you, cupcake. :boy_hug::girl_hug:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archibald View Post
    I thought that's what I was saying?


    Bike frames are essentially stress skin structures; the measurable product of shaped tubes aren't theoretical engineering claims. That'd be real. The benefits of the those results to cyclists are arguable.

    Regardless, I'm still kicking you in the nuts when I see you, cupcake. :boy_hug::girl_hug:

    I get the idea behind shaped tubes but if the rider can't feel or measure it what good is it? Sort like the hair on my head. Theoretically I have hair but it's not really doing anything meaningful. Good thing the rest of me is so darned handsome though.

    Make sure you stretch a bit before attempting that kick. A man your age might pull a hammy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt Goodrich View Post
    A man your age might pull a hammy.
    You cut me, Curt. You cut me deep.
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    goodrich
    you make freakin beautiful frames
    post a couple of pics.

    that'll shut him up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suspectdevice View Post
    That's a word, right?
    Yes, "whording" means stashing a large number of prostitutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dang View Post
    Yes, "whording" means stashing a large number of prostitutes.
    Velocipede Salon?
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    time for new ideas atmo -
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