Porsche

[christian]

-If it is just me in the car, is it possible to put a bike (56 sq) INSIDE a 911 coupe without taking off the rear wheel or futzing with the stem and bars?

No. Rear wheel would have to come off. In a cabriolet, you can stuff a bike with wheels off behind the seats easily.

-If two adults are in the car, can two frames and four wheels be carried without resorting to an external rack?

No.

This assumes you're talking about a 74-89 mid-year/SC/Carrera.

[roseyscot]

Thanks TT. I think putting a roof rack on a 911 would be pretty awful. For P forums, I've found Pelican. Any other good ones?

my father fit his 55cm road bike behind the two seats in his 87 cabriolet. had to put the top down first though. wheels in the front. no chance you could fit it with a wheel on, and definitely no chance you'd get two bikes in there unless one is riding shotgun with a seatpost removed.

i had a yakima roof rack on the 944 when i was younger, mostly to keep the muddy mtb out of the trunk. i could also fit 2 bikes with their wheels off in the trunk with the rear seats folded down.

[summilux]

Bummer about the two bikes. Here's what I've been dreaming of. It's at a Porsche dealer in Montreal. '87, Lowish miles (90K km) and somewhat pricey ($40K Cdn). I hope someone buys it soon because it's been driving me nuts.

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[Crashburn]

Thanks TT. I think putting a roof rack on a 911 would be pretty awful. For P forums, I've found Pelican. Any other good ones?

Robert Redford didn't seem to mind a roof rack on a 911.

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[Too Tall]

Yup ;)
Whatever floats your boat. I like that old car, get it.

[fc356]

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Yup ;)
Whatever floats your boat. I like that old car, get it.

Taking the 72S to the Hill Country Rally this weekend. So off the bike and in the car for a change.

Frank

[Too Tall]

Yummy

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Taking the 72S to the Hill Country Rally this weekend. So off the bike and in the car for a change.

Frank

[seankanary]

Well, some good bad news and some good...

The bad:
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Some ass clown decided he didn't want to use his brakes on turn 2, but rather use our car as a way to slow down.

The good:
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Second 935 is in color

[christian]

No x in the main hoop or between the back stays?

[MisterDangerPants]

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Do you know if that's a 916 in the background?

[seankanary]

@ Christian - There will be, we wanted to keep it open while we messed around with some prototype suspension.

@ Mister - Yes that is an original 914-6 heavily raced in IMSA in 82 and 83. We restored it to the way it was when it was raced back then by Dick and Alice graves. It never was a podium car but always finished top 10.

[MisterDangerPants]

@ Mister - Yes that is an original 914-6 heavily raced in IMSA in 82 and 83. We restored it to the way it was when it was raced back then by Dick and Alice graves. It never was a podium car but always finished top 10.

Thanks. Very nice. I figured it was a 914-6 and not a 916 (with, what, like a dozen ever made), but thought I'd ask as you've posted some pretty sweet cars. My father liked the 914 quite a bit. I posted this some time back, maybe you've seen it already, but thought I'd post again:

Back in the late 1980s my father decided to put a 1967 Chevrolet 283 into a 1974 Porsche 914. He also upgraded the suspension to that of a 911 and performed all of the bodywork on the car (except for the paint). My father was an extremely talented mechanic, fabricator and welder and this car was probably his favorite project. When he passed away, I gifted the car to my cousin in Arizona who absolutely loves it. He lives in Tucson where there is a shop that specialized in 914 V8 conversions called Desert Hybrids. After 20 years, the car needed some updating and this guy does amazing work. My cousin has about $10K into updates, most of which are tied to the new cooling system. Here it is when it first arrived in Arizona:



Engine getting installed back into the car after the updates:

One of my father's friends was Lenny Cummings from Auto Sport Engineering in Stow, MA. Don't know if you know him (or his son Mark) as Lenny was once quite involved in the racing scene here. Lenny always tried to convince my father to build a 914-6 but my father wouldn't listen.

Anyway, keep up the good work!

[seankanary]

Very cool! I love seeing the v8 conversions. Yea, there is only a handful of factory 916's. We had an opportunity not to long ago to pick one up, but it was in real rough shape and the seller wanted way too much.

[jitahs]

@ Christian - There will be, we wanted to keep it open while we messed around with some prototype suspension.

Thank god:

[seankanary]

Thank god:

It would never pass tech inspection otherwise.

They are in all our cars
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[jitahs]

It would never pass tech inspection otherwise.

They are in all our cars
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Hot. That may be the most organic, fitted fender roll ever.

What's your take on the second door double rails on some cages - is it about fitment?

[seankanary]

What do you mean by the second door double rails?

[jitahs]

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[seankanary]

It seems like that would just be added safety.. I don't think you can get fast enough in a Mazda to warrant that type of overkill but for school cars, I suppose. We gut the doors and fit the side impact bars as far from the driver. We have had a few serious accidents from our customers (total write-offs) and the cage didn't budge.

[christian]

NASCAR (dual, extending outward from the sill) door bars are really good when you are likely to strike another relatively flat object (e.g. Armco barrier or another car) but aren't so great for point-impacts that strike between the a-pillar and b-pillar (e.g. a tree in a side strike). To that end, they are good for track cars, less so for rally cars.

I think Sean's cage looks good, but I don't like that double-design on the Barber car very much. Look where the lower outer tube connects in front -- to the middle of another horizontal element (inner door bar). That should be tied into the connection of the (inner) door bar with the a-pillar hoop. As it is, it'll cause a point loading in the inner door bar. Not ideal.