Pegoretti Cicli

[pasquino]

also, yes, the luigino that fits is a forever bike:)

my mom wanted to take one of me today:

thie is a correct head tube lenght,IMO.

[pasquino]

It's funny that some questions comes only from Italy....sometimes i think that in Italy we don't deserve people like Dario. btw Dario will come to Bristol (not me unfortunately).

please,go ahead your nose,along with mr over the...and ciofeca....
I want
to speak with master dario of technical facts,for the circus there are a lot of forums,I suppose.

[ciofecca gialloblù]

also, yes, the luigino that fits is a forever bike:)

my mom wanted to take one of me today:

Your bike Michael denotes much good taste, I like very well components, simply impeccable.

[Round]

ciao dario,
i have many memories of visiting your shop. two of them relate to building frames for pro riders. one was looking through the box (which sat simply on the floor and was collecting a lot of dust) of old build sheets for pro frames and the names of the riders on the build sheets, so many famous names. and i remember a story you told of how many frames you made in just one year for a famous italian racer. he kept asking for new frames, with many changes just mm different. if my memory is correct, i think you said you made something like 21 frames (or was it 12?) just for him in one year. did i get the number right? i just remember it was a crazy number and that he seemed to be looking for something that wasn't there.
take care, james

Ciao James,
is correct, in a year I built 21 different frames for a pro rider and the differences of geometry were substantive, now my thoughts at the time was:
It is possible that a rider with a very long experience (more than a decade), which ride for more than 15000 miles every year, which should have developed a good position on his bike , has not yet an acceptable idea of what he needs?
It is possible , to a lacking sensibiity, external factors due to the many people who offer technical contributions without having the necessary background , and the pursuit of something more that probably will not ever.
take care
d

[Round]

Ciao Dario,

Did you ever consider building with titanium?

I guess during the early 90's - when you were building for the pro's - we first started to see titanium bikes become popular in the peloton.
Other builders in Italy, such as Doriano De Rosa, started producing titanium frames around this time - and continue to do so. Did you have any interest in using it?

Ciao,
Paul

Ciao Paolo,
I have built some titanium frame at the beginning of the 90's, about twenty, was a time when the titanium was requested in the peloton , I must say that I have had many difficulties in the implementation and organisation of the workshop, titanium requires precaution and treatment different than other materials and I found it is hard to share two requirements in the same workshop , and also , that here in Italy, unlike the United States , was much more difficult to find the necessary material and that was not possible to develop tubes with different thicknesses and diameters than some standard dimension, having said that I think is a good material to build a frame and proves by the fact that Doriano de Rosa as carl strong or darren crisp do AN excellent work.
(d)

[Round]

Hi Dario
Are you coming to Bristol, UK next year? I would like to try and get there and meet you.

ciao,
i will be in Bristol and....it is a good idea to drink a beer togheter !!
ciao
D

[Round]

also, yes, the luigino that fits is a forever bike:)

my mom wanted to take one of me today:

Ciao,
hey nice looking bike !!
d

[ciofecca gialloblù]

Ciao James,
is correct, in a year I built 21 different frames for a pro rider and the differences of geometry were substantive, now my thoughts at the time was:
It is possible that a rider with a very long experience (more than a decade), which ride for more than 15000 miles every year, which should have developed a good position on his bike , has not yet an acceptable idea of what he needs?
It is possible , to a lacking sensibiity, external factors due to the many people who offer technical contributions without having the necessary background , and the pursuit of something more that probably will not ever.
take care
d

Dario according te the sensitivity to understand really well the behavior of the bike is an innate or can develop over the years with such practice?
Did you ever find an amateur cyclist who has amazed at how she could feel and to describe the behavior of the bike?
Hello


Roberto

[Round]

yes,of course.
my aim is to drive with a normal lenght head tube and using a straight fork( enve,e.g),obviously with the correct rake.
is it possible?
it's a sort of after marketing....

Hi
from what you write (I don't want the extended head tube , and I want the enve fork ) it seems that you have clear ideas about what you want.
It is correct?
D

[McKinney777]

Hey Dario,

My wife had a Responsorium built, dedicated to daughter Whitney who died from brain cancer at 21. It has "Cancer Sucks" on the seat tube.
She rode it for the first time in the El Tour de Tucson last weekend and she loves the ride of the steel... the Wilier is up for sale now.

With over 8,000 cyclists, we didn't see any other Pegoretti's.
She got a lot of compliments about the bike and she just loves it.

Thanks.

[skouri1]

Extended head tube issue is separate. That depends on your fit/requirements, and if you wanted to order a stock frame, an LBS you trust could cut down the head tube.

But, as far as the fork is concerned.
If any custom builder specs a particular fork with their frame, I would get that fork!

I'm going to quote a Dave Kirk interview: "I feel very strongly about forks and every Kirk frame goes out the door with it’s made to match Kirk fork. I do not offer off the shelf forks. Each one is designed and built to match the frame’s geometry and the desired ride qualities. It’s next to impossible to get the handling and alignment just right when ½ of the design was done by someone else who knows nothing about the needs to the rider. The frame and fork need to be designed together to work properly together and to give the proper handling and ride. "

I know ENVE forks are well respected, but Dario has gone through the effort of developing a fork to his specifications. Not only does it compliment the aesthetic of his frames, but it will ride like he wants his forks to ride. This goes beyond rake or axle to crown length (perhaps even more overlooked than rake!), it is the lateral/torsional stiffness and compliance that he wants. The Falz fork completes Dario's frame design. I personally wouldn't get a Peg with any other fork. (Except for a pegoretti Steel fork)

[Round]

Hey Dario,

My wife had a Responsorium built, dedicated to daughter Whitney who died from brain cancer at 21. It has "Cancer Sucks" on the seat tube.
She rode it for the first time in the El Tour de Tucson last weekend and she loves the ride of the steel... the Wilier is up for sale now.

With over 8,000 cyclists, we didn't see any other Pegoretti's.
She got a lot of compliments about the bike and she just loves it.

Thanks.

Ciao,
I remember very well this frame , and the feeling during the paint work, I am really happy that you and your wife love the frame.
A big hello and take care
Dario

[sdg71]

please,go ahead your nose,along with mr over the...and ciofeca....
I want
to speak with master dario of technical facts,for the circus there are a lot of forums,I suppose.

You suppose wrong....Mr. Pollastri or zio cocco in collaboration with mardot or bicidiferro

[TMB]

Round,

Love my Luigino. Hope to be ordering Day is Done next year, that one is even more stunning.

Thanks for these.

[pasquino]

Hi
from what you write (I don't want the extended head tube , and I want the enve fork ) it seems that you have clear ideas about what you want.
It is correct?
D

may be,do you remember the mr carrai respo with the enve fork?
was it so sinny?
possibly I want to know why of every thing REALLY INTEREST me.
in the past I asked you about the head tube lenght and.....no clear answer.
the same answer for info about the best fork.
THAT'S ALL.

[pasquino]

You suppose wrong....Mr. Pollastri or zio cocco in collaboration with mardot or bicidiferro

wow,you are the target of an international conspiration,is it a film or do you suffer of another forum lack?

[Andyindo]

Dario, so wonderful to have you on the forum! I have been an admirer for a long time and hope to one day own one of your beautiful frames.
One question, why did you change the name of the Marcelo to MXXXXXXO?

[sdg71]

may be,do you remember the mr carrai respo with the enve fork?
was it so sinny?
possibly I want to know why of every thing REALLY INTEREST me.
in the past I asked you about the head tube lenght and.....no clear answer.
the same answer for info about the best fork.
THAT'S ALL.

The problem my dear is that you ask something thinking to already have the answer... In my opinion all you have to do is to become a telaistas.... This is the Only way you have to Understand something more....

[pasquino]

The problem my dear is that you ask something thinking to already have the answer... In my opinion all you have to do is to become a telaistas.... This is the Only way you have to Understand something more....

mr barnum,please,lets answer mr pegoretti.

[Alberto]

Dear Pasquino, this is for you.



Sincerely.
Peace out.
Cheers,
-a.-