The Vaccine Thread

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[robin3mj]

Getting first shot for all three kids today, plus the booster for my wife. Something to celebrate.

[Tom]

Well after my loud boasting I discovered it drowned out the honking of the train coming to run me over. The sketchy hip that lit up out of nowhere in March after the two shots lit up out of nowhere this week after the third shot. I got on the bike yesterday and today and there's just nothing there. I'm riding 30 miles on level ground approaching it like its 300 miles. There's just no energy there.

I'm very pleased. I think poke 3 is working.

[rwsaunders]

Just got boosted this afternoon…time for the Moderna juice to do its magic.

[SlowPokePete]

Boosted today as well with Pfizer # 3.

SPP

[rwsaunders]

My nose started running early this morning and by 11:00am, I was shaking like a leaf with chills. I went to bed about 1:00pm and woke up 6 hours later or so and had a light dinner. Should be ok for a ride tomorrow and next year when we’re due for another booster, I will schedule the jab for a Thursday/Friday again.

[SlowPokePete]

Boosted today as well with Pfizer # 3.

SPP

No side effects at all, other than a very slight sore arm, no more so than from my flu shot a couple of weeks ago.

Wife originally had J&J (which left a pretty large and sore lump on her arm for about a month), got Moderna yesterday as a booster...we'll see how she feels today as she is still asleep.

SPP

[robin3mj]

All three kids are 36 hours past shot number one with only a sore delt or two.

[bigbill]

Moderna booster next Thursday. Flu shot the next day. I'm a glutton for sore arms.

[colker]

I´ve got 99 problems and the vaccine ain´t one.

[Dave Thompson]

Both wife and I got our Moderna boosters Tuesday. No issues with either of us.

[beeatnik]

The Case for Boosters

Canada. Better data collection and stratification

COVID-19 cases in the past 120 days in Alberta by vaccine status
Under 29 years: 41842 cases, 34869 unvaccinated (83%)
30-39 years: 18223 cases, 11501 unvaccinated (63%)
40 + : 33525 cases, 17568 unvaccinated (52%)
80 + : 2305 cases, 607 unvaccinated (26%)


COVID-19 hospitalization rate (per 100,000 population) in the past 120 days in Alberta
30-39 Unvaccinated: 421.11/100k
80+ Fully Vaccinated: 319.62/100k

COVID-19 death rate (per 100,000 population), in the past 120 days in Alberta by vaccine status
50-59 Unvaccinated: 105/100k
80 + Fully Vaccinated 128/100k

COVID-19 deaths in the past 120 days in Alberta by vaccine status
Unvaccinated; 555
Fully vaccinated: 250

CFR
2020: 1.19%. (1214 deaths/104185 cases)
Past 120 days fully vaccinated: 1.12% (250/22339)
Past 120 days unvaccinated: .87% (555/63938)

Vaccination data are up-to-date as of end of day November 04, 2021

6,606,404 doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in Alberta
87.3 percent of 12+ population has received at least one dose (74.3% total population)
80.9 percent of 12+ population fully vaccinated (68.8% total population)

https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-1...ccine-outcomes

[Mark Walberg]

The Case for Boosters..........

There is a good recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine that has lots of real world data that shows that the booster adds A LOT of additional protection.
The study compared people who had two Pfizer shots to those who had three shots. They looked at more than 1.1 million people over 60 yrs of age.
The data was obtained when the delta variant was prominent.
They found:
"At least 12 days after the booster dose, the rate of confirmed infection was lower in the booster group than in the nonbooster group by a factor of 11.3 (95% confidence interval [CI], 10.4 to 12.3); the rate of severe illness was lower by a factor of 19.5 (95% CI, 12.9 to 29.5)."

So, the booster improved resistance to infection 11 fold, and reduced incidence of severe illness almost 20 fold.

That is a HUGE benefit. I never expected it to add that much.
If there was ever a cancer treatment found with that much benefit, it would outshine anything ever seen before.
Many cancer treatments are FDA approved with a benefit in the range of 0.3 for example.

Here is a free link to the NEJM article
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255

[rwsaunders]

Moderna booster next Thursday. Flu shot the next day. I'm a glutton for sore arms.

Bill…I’m not a doctor and I don't play one on TV, but FWIW, my pulmonologist bud told me to space out the booster and flu shot by 7-10 days, with preference on getting the booster. I had chills with the first Moderna jab, extreme fatigue with the second and chills, fatigue and swollen lymph nodes under my “shot arm” with the booster. No complaints…I just wasn’t expecting the 1/2 dose booster to kick my arse.

[colker]

Bill…I’m not a doctor and I don't play one on TV, but FWIW, my pulmonologist bud told me to space out the booster and flu shot by 7-10 days, with preference on getting the booster. I had chills with the first Moderna jab, extreme fatigue with the second and chills, fatigue and swollen lymph nodes under my “shot arm” with the booster. No complaints…I just wasn’t expecting the 1/2 dose booster to kick my arse.

I felt sick 24hrs after getting the booster. The whole day feeling sick ... but it beats developing covid by a significant margin. I know because i had covid.

[robin3mj]

The plural of anecdote is not data, but I had my flu shot on a Wednesday and Pfizer booster a week later Friday. No ill effects from either except a sore shoulder. YMMV.

Pharmacies in my area will schedule both on the same time slot.

[rwsaunders]

I felt sick 24hrs after getting the booster. The whole day feeling sick ... but it beats developing covid by a significant margin. I know because i had covid.

No question about that.

[bigbill]

Bill…I’m not a doctor and I don't play one on TV, but FWIW, my pulmonologist bud told me to space out the booster and flu shot by 7-10 days, with preference on getting the booster. I had chills with the first Moderna jab, extreme fatigue with the second and chills, fatigue and swollen lymph nodes under my “shot arm” with the booster. No complaints…I just wasn’t expecting the 1/2 dose booster to kick my arse.

Good advice. I can easily move the flu shot to the following Tuesday when the VA clinic has walk-in flu vaccinations. The second Moderna hit me for about half a day.

[bigbill]

Ten cases at work just this week. All in the 20-40 demographic and unvaccinated.

[monadnocky]

Raging out of control in New Hampshire right now - numbers not seen since last January.
And I have to go to a f'n wedding this weekend... great.